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California's San Quentin prison could be more like Norway's prison system. But what would it take?

Published April 20, 2023 at 8:40 AM EDT

Here & Now‘s Deepa Fernandes speaks with Tommy “Shakur” Ross about his recent visit to two prisons in Norway and about California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s plan to make San Quentin more like Norway’s prisons.

This article was originally published on WBUR.org.

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